Jennifer talks with Kelly O'Shanassy, CEO of the Australian Conservation Foundation (ACF) about the implications of the recent federal Labor victory for climate change, and the preservation of our natural enviornment and endangered species.

They discuss the recent 'climate bomb' decision made by new Environment Minister, Murray Watt, to approve an extension of Woodside Energy's North West Shelf gas project in WA to 2070. Kelly explains the fossil fuel-friendly policy context of this decision.

Kelly also talks about the need for strong legislation that preserves our natural environment and the habitats of a multitude of endangered species.

She engenders a sense of hope, and faith in 'people power', and she shares with listeners ways they can fight these catastrophes with others who also care about the environment and the future.